Polish Breeders Club

I've touched on this topic before, but now I'm really serious and would like to get some input from the experienced Polish breeders out there.  I would really like to see the non-bearded wc splash variety accepted by the ABA.  I think they're just gorgeous and would like to see them compete beyond BV.  As I understand it, there need to be 25 birds in all 4 sex categories entered by 5 breeders at an ABA National or Semi-Annual meet.  I also understand there is a $100 fee and some paperwork.  Have I got that straight?  I can only think of 2 or 3 breeders here in the NW that could enter the requisite 5 birds, plus, we don't get a National very often.  What about Crossroads??  Are there enough breeders who would enter 5 wc splash birds if we started now to garner support for the idea?  As I am far away, I would put up the $100 fee.  I might even be able to bring birds IF I can find anyone driving from the Seattle area.  Regardless, I plan to fly there myself.  I love to do these blue/blue matings and it seems a shame to throw away the splashes.  Splash silkies and Old English are everywhere, so it's not like we're trying to get something hard like Tollbunts through.  What does everyone think???

Cindy,

   Let's get something written up into the newsletter and see what kind of responce you get. Crossroads would be a wonderful venue to get this done!!!

Cindy

Because Splash is a variety with a color description already in the standard, it should be relatively easy to get them into the standard.  The description will have to be written in the format other varieties are described in the standard.

If you have any trouble with this, let me know.  I'll do what I can to help.

glen

gcryar at May 8, 2010 at 3:50 PM

Cindy

 

Because Splash is a variety with a color description already in the standard, it should be relatively easy to get them into the standard.  The description will have to be written in the format other varieties are described in the standard.

 

If you have any trouble with this, let me know.  I'll do what I can to help.

 

glen

I haven't a CLUE what to do as far as paperwork to fill out.  We will need your help, Glen.  Can we get 5 breeders to commit to bring the required birds, do you think?  I can ask Kathy Troxell by phone since she doesn't do the internet.

Cindy,

  We need to get the five breeders, that's the hard part, and I can get the paper work so we can file. I would be thrilled if Glen would like to help out with this project.

I'll be glad to help.  I'll write the description in the required format and send it to whom ever is going to submit the paperwork,

glen

wouldnt it be easiest just to rip of the basic splash from other breeds that already recogize it?

Jeremy at May 10, 2010 at 5:11 PM

wouldnt it be easiest just to rip of the basic splash from other breeds that already recogize it?

With the white crest, the pattern is not exact for the entire bird.  The crest will have to be described separately.  Eye color, shank color, beak color ect will have to be described in  the format required, as will the crest color.  Body color will reference the splash color pattern already described in the standard.  Nothing will have to be ripped off.

glen

Afraid I am no help here but me and my splash Polish pen will be  watching this with interest.

becky3086 at May 11, 2010 at 6:57 AM

Afraid I am no help here but me and my splash Polish pen will be  watching this with interest.

So, it sounds as though we need a roster of PBC club members who are planning to go to Crossroads, already breed wc blues, and can commit to bring 5 birds that are nice wc splashes.  Anybody????

Anything yet? Just wondering if maybe people contact each other more off the board?

becky3086 at May 14, 2010 at 8:07 AM

Anything yet? Just wondering if maybe people contact each other more off the board?

I am working on the written standard.  I should have it to Jim next week.  The wheels are rolling on that part.  I don't know if anyone has contacted the ABA and/or the APA to get the acceptance paper work part going.  I have talked with one of the members of the ABA Standard committee about the splash.  He sees no problems.

glen

Hi gang.  I sent the draft of the standard to Jim.  Maybe he will include it in the next newsletter for comment.  I also sent a copy to Marty McGuire, a member of the ABA Standard Committee.  Marty raised the White Crested Blues in the past and should be a help in getting them accepted.

glen

gcryar at May 14, 2010 at 4:06 PM

Hi gang.  I sent the draft of the standard to Jim.  Maybe he will include it in the next newsletter for comment.  I also sent a copy to Marty McGuire, a member of the ABA Standard Committee.  Marty raised the White Crested Blues in the past and should be a help in getting them accepted.

 

glen

Excellent!  This is so exciting.  Let me know when to send a check.  I am holding on to my splash chicks this year and next as is Elizabeth Kowalski- also here in WA.  Both of us are hoping we won't have to be part of the 5 breeders because of the cost of shipping, but are willing to do it if we need to.  Perhaps we could sell them at the show and at least not pay to ship them back to WA!!  

Cynthia Smith, DVM at May 14, 2010 at 9:22 PM

gcryar at May 14, 2010 at 4:06 PM

Hi gang.  I sent the draft of the standard to Jim.  Maybe he will include it in the next newsletter for comment.  I also sent a copy to Marty McGuire, a member of the ABA Standard Committee.  Marty raised the White Crested Blues in the past and should be a help in getting them accepted.

 

glen

Excellent!  This is so exciting.  Let me know when to send a check.  I am holding on to my splash chicks this year and next as is Elizabeth Kowalski- also here in WA.  Both of us are hoping we won't have to be part of the 5 breeders because of the cost of shipping, but are willing to do it if we need to.  Perhaps we could sell them at the show and at least not pay to ship them back to WA!!  

Jim, 

I've been e-mailing Glen about whether wc splash frizzles can be part of the 25 birds.  He says this question has never come up before and you need to ask the ABA.  Can you do this?  Many of my splash chicks are frizzles and there shouldn't be any reason we can't use them that I can think of, but I'm sure we need it from the horse's mouth.

Cynthia Smith, DVM at May 11, 2010 at 9:53 AM

becky3086 at May 11, 2010 at 6:57 AM

Afraid I am no help here but me and my splash Polish pen will be  watching this with interest.

So, it sounds as though we need a roster of PBC club members who are planning to go to Crossroads, already breed wc blues, and can commit to bring 5 birds that are nice wc splashes.  Anybody????

Good news!  I just spoke to Kathy Troxell today.  She is putting together a pen of blues and will be breeding  splashes in order to have enough to be one of the 5 exhibitors at Crossroads.  She would be willing to consider helping someone else get wc splashes as well if they are not currently breeding blues.  I thought I'd post it here as Kathy does not do the internet.

Splash folks

From what I learned when we got the cuckoo in the standard, it is best to shoot for at least 10 exhibitors and 75 birds shown.  We had promises from about 15 breeders and over 100 birds to be exhibited.  When judging time got there, we had 55 cuckoos and 5 exhbitors.  Al Westling and I had most of the birds (I carried 25).  The other folks had 1-5 each.

Therefore, I suggest that we shoot for much more than the required numbers.  It would be terrible to get 5 exhibitors and 24 birds.  The Polish Club should do it right and have at least 75 birds for the judges to examine.  Because the splash is really just a sport from the WC Blues, type should not be a problem, and for that matter, color should not be either.  I think the only challenge is getting the numbers.

glen

gcryar at June 4, 2010 at 11:31 AM

Splash folks

 

From what I learned when we got the cuckoo in the standard, it is best to shoot for at least 10 exhibitors and 75 birds shown.  We had promises from about 15 breeders and over 100 birds to be exhibited.  When judging time got there, we had 55 cuckoos and 5 exhbitors.  Al Westling and I had most of the birds (I carried 25).  The other folks had 1-5 each.

 

Therefore, I suggest that we shoot for much more than the required numbers.  It would be terrible to get 5 exhibitors and 24 birds.  The Polish Club should do it right and have at least 75 birds for the judges to examine.  Because the splash is really just a sport from the WC Blues, type should not be a problem, and for that matter, color should not be either.  I think the only challenge is getting the numbers.

 

glen

I'm sure you're right, Glen.  I just don't know how much I can do from way over here on the West Coast.  If the the show were within driving distance for me, I'd plan to bring all I had.  Speaking of that, all of my splashes are turning out to be males, so I'm going to put my blue pens back together when I come back from vacation next month.  Maybe we'll get a lot more interest when the newsletter comes out.