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Diane Spisak
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Hi, havent been on new web much due to a scooter accident, & head injury, but Im wondering if we have a member list on this anywhere?  Also Im lucky to have gotten a good start with some great birds years ago now, but Im thinking Id actually like to reduce the front crest in some of my genetics. Most of my hens need  plucking so they can see past the crest feathers.    Has any one worked on this and other then selecting  breeding matches with less front crest, any ideas?   I have WC Cho, Khaki, Cuckoo reg & cho  & black of show quality polish bantams but I also like survivability traits and would like a tad smaller front crest...  Diane   [email protected]   

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Diane Spisak

June 23, 2011 at 11:31 AM Flag Quote & Reply

polishbreedersclub
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Diane,

  There isnt a directory online. I will start work on the new one this summer and wil be personally calling every member so I won't have as many mistakes as the last one. Will you be going to Indianapolis? If so bring some extra chocolates and khaki's! I need some.

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Sherry Parker

Polish Breeders Club president

June 23, 2011 at 9:01 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Cynthia Smith, DVM
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Diane Spisak at June 23, 2011 at 11:31 AM

Hi, havent been on new web much due to a scooter accident, & head injury, but Im wondering if we have a member list on this anywhere?  Also Im lucky to have gotten a good start with some great birds years ago now, but Im thinking Id actually like to reduce the front crest in some of my genetics. Most of my hens need  plucking so they can see past the crest feathers.    Has any one worked on this and other then selecting  breeding matches with less front crest, any ideas?   I have WC Cho, Khaki, Cuckoo reg & cho  & black of show quality polish bantams but I also like survivability traits and would like a tad smaller front crest...  Diane   [email protected]   

Hi Diane,

I'm torn on the crest issue too.  I had 2 males side by side at a show last month.  I loved the crest on the chocolate- a lovely crest with no split that rose beautifully and framed his face while still allowing him full vision.  The other male I was showing was so heavily crested that it began to "part" down the middle and left him with little good vision to find the girls.  Guess which one the judge liked?  I breed for these lovely massive crests, but then keep the birds taped up so they can see at home.  Sometimes when I let the crests down at the shows, though, the girls react with fear or head-shaking, so I have to take them down intermittently.  I am very cautious about who I sell to, these birds are so high-maintenance and most people who admire them don't really want the work involved in taking care of them.  I do find my frizzle females generally can see better than the smooths, so that's another reason to enjoy our frizzles!

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Cindy

June 25, 2011 at 1:14 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Diane Spisak
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Posts: 18

Cynthia Smith, DVM at June 25, 2011 at 1:14 AM

Diane Spisak at June 23, 2011 at 11:31 AM

Hi, havent been on new web much due to a scooter accident, & head injury, but Im wondering if we have a member list on this anywhere?  Also Im lucky to have gotten a good start with some great birds years ago now, but Im thinking Id actually like to reduce the front crest in some of my genetics. Most of my hens need  plucking so they can see past the crest feathers.    Has any one worked on this and other then selecting  breeding matches with less front crest, any ideas?   I have WC Cho, Khaki, Cuckoo reg & cho  & black of show quality polish bantams but I also like survivability traits and would like a tad smaller front crest...  Diane   [email protected]   

Hi Diane,

I'm torn on the crest issue too.  I had 2 males side by side at a show last month.  I loved the crest on the chocolate- a lovely crest with no split that rose beautifully and framed his face while still allowing him full vision.  The other male I was showing was so heavily crested that it began to "part" down the middle and left him with little good vision to find the girls.  Guess which one the judge liked?  I breed for these lovely massive crests, but then keep the birds taped up so they can see at home.  Sometimes when I let the crests down at the shows, though, the girls react with fear or head-shaking, so I have to take them down intermittently.  I am very cautious about who I sell to, these birds are so high-maintenance and most people who admire them don't really want the work involved in taking care of them.  I do find my frizzle females generally can see better than the smooths, so that's another reason to enjoy our frizzles!

Hi Cynthia, I dont have crests that are so big or soft that  they part yet, though I have had a couple in the past, but the crests seem to be big in a nice not too loose  puffy  globe in the hens but too forward in the front. Ill catch the birds up occasionally and pull a few feathers around the eyes for better vision but the feathers grow back.. Roosters their crests flow back ok but they too have a few feathers over their eyes.The frizzles.. , I keep one or two  frizzle hens of each color I have , cuckoo, chocolate,  black and Khaki  and yes here too their crests are fine .Im Not sure how a frizzle rooster would be tho,as I havent kept any frizzle roosters. Just wondering, that I assume, but dont know how, breeders have selected for fuller crests  in the past, wondering if there are any tricks for selecting for smaller crests yet still showable amounts.. Diane

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Diane Spisak

June 26, 2011 at 11:28 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Diane Spisak
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Posts: 18

Jim, I have money from the sales of a couple Sweat shirts for the club, send me the address to send it. email me at [email protected]. And no Indianopolis, since this scooter accident &,head brain trauma Im not driving yet  and its been 2 yrs this thurs, frustrating for a used to be very independant person.., though Im a lot better then I was and now at least functional.  And I have  some Chocolates still but only 2 Khakis, sold them a couple years ago cause they fade in the sunny pens I have them in, but now want some again too..... diane

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Diane Spisak

June 26, 2011 at 11:37 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Diane Spisak
Member
Posts: 18

HI all, I am still around and have some hatching egg and birds May- July each year. I have a few WC khaki, WC chocolate, WC black, & WC cuckoo and I keep one frizzle hen of each of the 4 colors. diane

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Diane Spisak

November 20, 2012 at 3:33 PM Flag Quote & Reply

KR
Member
Posts: 63

Hi there, just a thought on the crest direction and fullness, it very much follows the shape of the bump on the chick's skull. The more extreme the angle is at the edge of the bump, the more the crest feathers will tend to flip and point downhill. To get a crest which flows back from the face, the edges of the bump need to have a more subtle slope.

 

I have some WC Black Polish from Duane Urch with some variation in the crest shape, and would like to select for those with better visibility - like a parasol shaped crest. The birds seem happier and they don't get lost quite as easily.

 

There is a nicely matched pair with floppy, drapey tunnel shaped crests that I plan to sell soon. Happily, they are lovely looking if you don't mind mildly handicapped birds, and I think they will be easy to rehome. That is the benefit of trying to breed "down" -  everyone will want your culls!

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Best - KR

April 13, 2013 at 5:31 PM Flag Quote & Reply

toybarons
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Posts: 45

I tend to favor birds with crests that don't obscure the face & vision. I have also been beaten in show by birds I felt were not as good as mine because they sported big, flouncy crests over the eyes. Frankly, my Polish have to be healthy and happy when they are out in the coop before how they will look for the few moments it takes to judge them at a show. I prefer tight but well shaped crests on my hens that are away from the eyes. The roos I like the front crest to be upswept, similiar to my houdans, again so the bird has good vision. It also makes them less nervy too.

May 30, 2013 at 2:13 PM Flag Quote & Reply

polishlady
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I realise that the question of crest size is a lively topic of debate when it come to Polish however, my response has always been that in the 30+ years I've had Polish not ever has one starved to death because of impeded vision.  Having said that I must admit that I breed exclusively Polish and nothing else.

June 8, 2013 at 9:50 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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